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Atevi Calorie Needs/metabolism; Or how much DOES a growing ateva consume
Topic Started: Aug 24 2010, 02:36 AM (1,205 Views)
BlueCatShip
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Also off topic, but I've never had a White Castle anything. However, a couple of months ago, while watching TV with the grandparental unit, an episode of that hidden camera / undercover boss program came on. (I'd never seen it before and didn't absorb the title, obviously.) One of the bosses was the CEO of White Castle, who is one of the family of the original owner. The current CEO was quite good. He did the work, took his mistakes with good grace, was generally friendly and hard working. But what really impressed me was that he was so impressed with two of the employees that he had them both come to the home office, interviewed them (they thought they'd be fired) and promoted them. One, a low-level manager, he made head of a program to train others, he was so impressed with the man's very genuine friendliness to customers and drive to do well...plus, the young man was a father with young kids, one of whom was handicapped. The other was a middle aged woman, a junior supervisor, who was far and away better than her supervisor. I was so impressed that I still intend to *find* White Castle products in the freezer section (somewhere) and try them. Whatever the quality of their products, the CEO showed he and his family really have a commitment to their company and employees, and have a few very fine employees. Astonishingly rare, these days, or so it would seem.
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spiderdavon,Sep 2 2010
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I had to Google White Castle - I don't think they've found their way over here yet.  Steamed mini-burgers, yes?
I thought "sliders" was a US Navy term, presumably because they're so greasy they slide right off the table when the ship rolls....

Spiderdavon, I don't know anything about the US Navy, but sliding off the table was not the reason I heard when I was a kid. :rofl:

I'd never thought about the farmed beef objection. I was thinking more in terms of quantity. With eggs, I would think the size of the egg would be important. Maybe if we questioned quantity size. Pint/quart/liters?

Like with the famous pizza with green sauce. What size is the tray? There were nine made to feed 50 people and more could be easily made?
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...there's *lots* of genuinely good/nice employees out here> Problem is there's too many CEOs that either don't get access to such or don't *want* to see such... So we get passed over for sycophants (to be polite)...
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Hmmm....musings.....

Atevi have more mass and consequently retain heat more efficiently. A good thing to have in cold weather, but a problem in hot weather. Consider the relative differences in size of the Siberian Tiger and the Indian. The Siberian one is larger.

On the other hand bigger animals tend to eat more.

So what about metabolism? How efficient is the Atevi gut at extracting what their bodies need?

What is the calory content of Atevi food? It may be large in size/weight, what the eat, but is the density of useful matter the same as ours?

Panda's live on a calorific knife edge for example, not much calories in bamboo, but their short meat eating gut is not that efficient at extracting what they need.

Snakes on the other hand eat a large amount when they eat, but then maynot eat again for a long time.

So we have in the Atevi creatures that may not be as efficient at extration of useful matter from their food, their food maynot contain as much per weight or volume and the very chemistry of how they take that to the muscles might impede efficient use of what they get. All forcing them to eat more.

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Zen nadi:

One would speculate that the average Ateva gut vs the average human gut would be approximately the same for efficiency. The advantage going to the ateva gut for being able to handle alkaloids that the human one can't. The caloric content of atevi foods would vary just like ours does. Omnivores hedge their starvation bets by *being* omnivores. Meat-eaters get the best energy return for outlay in break down with meat (with apologies the various non-meateaters out there: vegetable proteins are not the same in structure & don't yield as much energy for the input energy used to break them down). Which may go a long way for the observed preference for Ragi type hunting.
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There is always a price to be paid. The idea Atevi and somehow superhumans and superior in every way is simply risible.

Consider that gut handling alkaloids, I bet theres a price for that too, and it may even be in how it handles other things.
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You have to admit, though, that some aspects of atevi and atevi society seem to be wishlists for what the author thinks humanity should have been. For example, consider the relative ease with which they've converted their economy to a would-be space-civilization economy. While real life humans stagnate in deadlock, at least in the USA.
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I'd still bet on the skiny kid in a food contest. perhaps akaloids help assorb calcium.
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It was noted (in Precursor, I think) that atevi not only relished and enjoyed the flavor/effect of alkaloids, but that they needed a certain amount to remain healthy, the way we need vitamins and minerals to ward off things like scurvy or muscle cramps.
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Would the gut itself really be the defining factor of processing alkaloids, though? I'd expect that to have more to do with neurology.
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