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Chanor-ji Wonders ...
Topic Started: Mar 17 2008, 11:50 PM (1,794 Views)
Chanor-ji

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Inquiring fans want to know! 


Take it up with Herself :cherryh: ! I sure know these are things this inquiring fan wants to know.
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Chanor-ji, it was meant as a figure of speech. You, being new and perhaps not having read all threads, would have no way of knowing:

(foundational 1) the associates of this forum actually have a fairly direct line to Herself in the person of Felicitous Sk8tr,

(unsettled 2) the matter is not urgent enough to impose on that resource, and

(stable 3) I personally had face time with Herself at the first (Sk8tr-hosted) "ShejiCon" last July.

Although, admittedly, I didn't think to ask these self-same questions of her then, I will have opportunity to do so at the next Sheji-Con (unless financial considerations force me to forgo my planned attendance). Or I may email them to her, there are instructions posted on Herself's website that one must follow to get past her anti-spam wires, which anyone may do to contact her, but again, it ought to be worth her while.
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Nand' Xheralt has given me much to ponder! Thank you, nandi!

That could very well have been the case with Tano and Algini. As for a filing, I believe (and this is by no means with evidence) that once a Filing is made, it's good until it is carried out or the person who Files withdraws the filing, OR, maybe it expires when either the person who is filed upon or the person who files dies.


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Chanor-ji

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Xheralt: I'm sorry; my comment was made as a joke. I was in a hurry and forgot to add the proper smilie. :doh

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CHanor-ji: Ok, no problem. I've been known to take things a little too literally on occasion...but sometimes, it lends itself to making truly awful puns, though. :lol: Please don't mind my dour and terrible demeanor :atwink, I'm actually a pretty nice guy in real life. :flower:

joekc6nlx: Oh, all manner of wild theories abound here in Shejidan :atwink but I'm glad some of mine have struck a chord with you.
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Regarding the possibility of Wilson having established some sort of relationship with an atevi woman ... I discount it entirely. Not so much because of the reading of his character and demeanor that we get from Bren (although that weighs in), but more so because of Ilisidi. She was extraordinarily curious after Bren's and Jago's first night. If I recall, she asked Bren point-blank, something to the effect of: "So, it is possible?" If Wilson or any other previous paidhi had previously established that fact, 'Sidi-ji of the insatiable curiosity and wicked sense of humor would surely be among those who knew!

And Chanor-ji -- please, keep dredging! It is such marvelous fun to see what points from which of the books are meaningful to others.
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I recall a frantic moment where Bren mentally fabricates/comes to the realization or perhaps suspects a history of Aiijin testing Paidhi various ways and passing the resulting responses on down line to subsequent aiiji.
This does not exactly make sense as of course Valaisi did not turn over power to Tabini in an orderly fashion... But Tabini WAS around when Bren filled in for Wilson. One presumes Tabini and Valaisi spoke and compared notes. This may have involved guild surrounding the paidhi.
One might be wrong. I will look for the reference. I feel the need for a complete re-read (7th or so).
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Chanor-ji also wonders: Cajeiri has acquired two untrained "body guards". Wouldn't it be wonderful if Herself :cherryh: used these two youngsters to show how members of the Assassins Guild are trained? :bunny7:
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Surtac,Mar 17 2008
11:50 PM
I realize I'm getting into this rather late in the game, but I'm really glad I'm not the only one wondering if Cenedi is Banichi's father. And if so, is it a tradition in Banichi's family to join the Guild?

I would like to know about Jago's mother. Is she still alive? Does Jago ever interact with her?

Wow, I love these threads so I'll add up to it even if it is a little old. Oh, I'll also try to stick to just a couple issues at a time (I tend to write looooong and twisted posts) okay?

Yes, from the human point of view it's curious that so little is known about Jago's mother, which could be explained due to Atevi's natural reserve on personal matters, people just didn't ask indiscreet questions, right? However, it would be interesting to know what would happen if Bren simply asked "Honey, where you mama?" :atwink

What I also find interesting is that at some point Banichi had to find the time to actually raise her -probably during that so important period between the ages of six and eight- so Jago would bond properly with him, develop "healthy feelings" and become a harmonious individual. They are obviously close, probably closer than most and this speaks of Banichi's skills as a father. Then comes the matter of Jago joining the Guild. We hear that Cajeiri's young Taibeni associates are in time to begin their training and they are teenagers already. Perhaps Jago joined earlier? I find it very possible that Guild children would enjoy some special status, one that allowed them to start their training at an early age, which would give them better chances to climb up the hierarchical ladder.
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However, it would be interesting to know what would happen if Bren simply asked "Honey, where you mama?"

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i'm not sure if i want to know :atwink
With Jago it may be anything so :baji
But I bet that 'Sidi-ji would know the same day about it
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Well, children 'go' to the parent who contracted for them - I just assumed that Banichi did that, and whoever Jago's mother is, she is simply not part of the picture. Maybe a southerner like Banichi? I realize in the latest book I'm reading (#8), Bren does not appear to know where Banichi comes from, province-wise, but in book #1, Banichi is identified by Tabini as being from a province in the south (I don't have the book available - Talidi province?- it is when Tabini files on persons unknown who attempted to assassinate the paidhi - AND in book I think #3, when Lord Saigimi is assassinated (by persons who did or didn't spend the night on a roof in the rain), Bren knows this, because he suspects Banichi might have had contacts in Lord S's area, having come from an adjacent province himself - next to the Marid Tasigen.

But it has been a few years and many events since that time, and Bren has had a lot of other stuff to think about, so I assumed he just forgot. Or, apparently, :cherryh: herself forgot.

But Cenedi is eastern. All Ilisidi's security are eastern. I think the comment that Banichi would one day look like Cenedi was not meant to imply an actual genetic connection, but one of 'guild'.

I suppose with Jago and Banichi, it is possible that she was contracted for by her MOTHER, and as a young adult decided to join the guild (perhaps mother was also guild - that seems likely) and she ended up with daddy more or less serendipitously, or by choice.

Not all guild are born to guild, apparently. Tano's father, remember, isn't guild (and Tano has a numerous family gainfully employed in many, many occupations of solid worth) and wanted his son to be an engineer. STILL wants his son to be an engineer, and kept bugging him about changing jobs, apparently, for years. At least until Tano ended up directly serving the paidhi and the aiji and went to space. His father seems to have lightened up about the engineering thing since then.

Atevi are generally very reticent about such things anyway, and Guild is beyond reticent. I don't find it unusual that Jago and Banichi have not discussed irrelevant connections. It might come up someday, but only if it is important politically or Bren for some reason needs to know. Guild interpretation of what their client 'needs to know' is awfully - restrictive.
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In Foreigner when Tabini files intent because of the attempt on the paidhi, he lists Banichi of Dajoshu township in Talidi province as his registered agent.
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Going back to Xheralt-ji's question about Filing...

My understanding is that Filings are good until rescinded or successful. I also gather that Filings are just a recognition by the Guild that there is a legitimate issue between two parties (perhaps to ensure that as much as possible, the facts are correct, to eliminate killing someone who was mis-identified). So, the person making the Filing actually needs to pay to have the job done by one of his/her staff, and the target's security and any associated Guild have full rights to defend the target and even to kill the assasins hired by the aggrieved person making the Filing.

Boy, I need to get some sleep, so I hope that typing all came out straight...
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This ^ is how I see the issues of filing as well.
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